Educated people by aborting them! (RepR)

volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
edited September 2005 in Strut Central
This fool is in charge of education for the whole country? One more piece of proof that Bush doesn't care about black people. Bush should have fired Bennett this morning!! Make shure you read to the end about his gambling problem. Yea, Bill white gamblers don't create any crime just black people. Idiot's Rule!!!!!Bennett under fire for remarks on blacks, crimeFriday, September 30, 2005; Posted: 1:08 p.m. EDT (17:08 GMT)Bennett is being harshly criticized, but he says he is standing by his comments. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Congressional Democrats blasted former Education Secretary William Bennett on Thursday for saying that aborting "every black baby in this country" would reduce the crime rate, and demanded their Republican counterparts do the same."This is precisely the kind of insensitive, hurtful and ignorant rhetoric that Americans have grown tired of," said Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Illinois.White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate."Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose -- you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down."That would be an impossibly ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down," he said.House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, had called on President Bush to condemn the comments by Bennett, who was anti-drug chief in Bush's father's administration."What could possibly have possessed Secretary Bennett to say those words, especially at this time?" Pelosi asked. "What could he possibly have been thinking? This is what is so alarming about his words."Bennett stood by his comments Thursday night."I was putting forward a hypothetical proposition. Put that forward. Examined it. And then said about it that it's morally reprehensible. To recommend abortion of an entire group of people in order to lower your crime rate is morally reprehensible. But this is what happens when you argue that the ends can justify the means," he told CNN."I'm not racist, and I'll put my record up against theirs," referring to Pelosi and other critics. "I've been a champion of the real civil rights issue of our times -- equal educational opportunities for kids.""We've got to have candor and talk about these things while we reject wild hypotheses," Bennett said."I don't think people have the right to be angry, if they look at the whole thing. But if they get a selective part of my comment, I can see why they would be angry. If somebody thought I was advocating that, they ought to be angry. I would be angry.""But that's not what I advocate."Asked if he owed people an apology, Bennett replied, "I don't think I do. I think people who misrepresented my view owe me an apology."Bennett served as Reagan's chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities from 1981-1985 and secretary of education from 1985-1988. From 1989-1990, he served as "drug czar" in the administration of the elder Bush.Rush called on "my friends, the responsible Republicans" to rebuke the former Cabinet official by backing a House resolution condemning his remarks as "outrageous racism of the most bigoted and ignorant kind.""Where is the indignation from the GOP, as one of their prominent members talk about aborting an entire race of Americans as a way of ridding this country of crime?" asked Rush, a former Black Panther. "How ridiculous! How asinine! How insane can one be?"He called instead for "aborting" Republican policies "which have hurt the disadvantaged, the poor, average Americans for the benefit of large corporations."Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he was "appalled" by Bennett's remarks."The Republican Party has recently taken great pains to reach out to the African-American community, and I hope that they will be swift in condemning Mr. Bennett's comments as nothing short of callous and ignorant," said Reid, D-Nevada.And Bruce Gordon, president and CEO of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, demanded an apology from Bennett and the Salem Radio Network, which airs his radio program."In 2005, there is no place for the kind of racist statement made by Bennett," Gordon said in a written statement. "While the entire nation is trying to help survivors, black and white, to recover from the damage caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, it is unconscionable for Bennett to make such ignorant and insensitive comments."A man who answered the phone at the network said no one would be available to comment until Friday.Bennett's 1993 repackaging of traditional morality tales, "The Book of Virtues," became a bestseller, and Bennett became a popular lecturer on moral issues. But in 2003, stung by news reports that he had lost millions of dollars in Las Vegas and Atlantic City over the last decade, he publicly renounced gambling and vowed to stay away from the slots from then on.He is a Fox News contributor and chairman of "Americans for Victory over Terrorism," which his Web site calls "a project dedicated to sustaining and strengthening public opinion as the war on terrorism moves forward."
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  • Whatever his intent by the comments,



    majorly.


    If that's the case they should just abort everyone. I know Mother Earth would thank him.

  • CLabCLab 76 Posts
    "former"

  • This fool is in charge of education for the whole country? One more piece of proof that Bush doesn't care about black people. Bush should have fired Bennett this morning!! Make shure you read to the end about his gambling problem. Yea, Bill white gamblers don't create any crime just black people. Idiot's Rule!!!!!






    Bennett under fire for remarks on blacks, crime

    Friday, September 30, 2005; Posted: 1:08 p.m. EDT (17:08 GMT)

    Bennett is being harshly criticized, but he says he is standing by his comments.

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Congressional Democrats blasted former Education Secretary William Bennett on Thursday for saying that aborting "every black baby in this country" would reduce the crime rate, and demanded their Republican counterparts do the same.

    "This is precisely the kind of insensitive, hurtful and ignorant rhetoric that Americans have grown tired of," said Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Illinois.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate."

    Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose -- you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.

    "That would be an impossibly ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down," he said.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, had called on President Bush to condemn the comments by Bennett, who was anti-drug chief in Bush's father's administration.

    "What could possibly have possessed Secretary Bennett to say those words, especially at this time?" Pelosi asked. "What could he possibly have been thinking? This is what is so alarming about his words."

    Bennett stood by his comments Thursday night.

    "I was putting forward a hypothetical proposition. Put that forward. Examined it. And then said about it that it's morally reprehensible. To recommend abortion of an entire group of people in order to lower your crime rate is morally reprehensible. But this is what happens when you argue that the ends can justify the means," he told CNN.

    "I'm not racist, and I'll put my record up against theirs," referring to Pelosi and other critics. "I've been a champion of the real civil rights issue of our times -- equal educational opportunities for kids."

    "We've got to have candor and talk about these things while we reject wild hypotheses," Bennett said.

    "I don't think people have the right to be angry, if they look at the whole thing. But if they get a selective part of my comment, I can see why they would be angry. If somebody thought I was advocating that, they ought to be angry. I would be angry."

    "But that's not what I advocate."

    Asked if he owed people an apology, Bennett replied, "I don't think I do. I think people who misrepresented my view owe me an apology."

    Bennett served as Reagan's chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities from 1981-1985 and secretary of education from 1985-1988. From 1989-1990, he served as "drug czar" in the administration of the elder Bush.

    Rush called on "my friends, the responsible Republicans" to rebuke the former Cabinet official by backing a House resolution condemning his remarks as "outrageous racism of the most bigoted and ignorant kind."

    "Where is the indignation from the GOP, as one of their prominent members talk about aborting an entire race of Americans as a way of ridding this country of crime?" asked Rush, a former Black Panther. "How ridiculous! How asinine! How insane can one be?"

    He called instead for "aborting" Republican policies "which have hurt the disadvantaged, the poor, average Americans for the benefit of large corporations."

    Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he was "appalled" by Bennett's remarks.

    "The Republican Party has recently taken great pains to reach out to the African-American community, and I hope that they will be swift in condemning Mr. Bennett's comments as nothing short of callous and ignorant," said Reid, D-Nevada.

    And Bruce Gordon, president and CEO of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, demanded an apology from Bennett and the Salem Radio Network, which airs his radio program.

    "In 2005, there is no place for the kind of racist statement made by Bennett," Gordon said in a written statement. "While the entire nation is trying to help survivors, black and white, to recover from the damage caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, it is unconscionable for Bennett to make such ignorant and insensitive comments."

    A man who answered the phone at the network said no one would be available to comment until Friday.

    Bennett's 1993 repackaging of traditional morality tales, "The Book of Virtues," became a bestseller, and Bennett became a popular lecturer on moral issues. But in 2003, stung by news reports that he had lost millions of dollars in Las Vegas and Atlantic City over the last decade, he publicly renounced gambling and vowed to stay away from the slots from then on.

    He is a Fox News contributor and chairman of "Americans for Victory over Terrorism," which his Web site calls "a project dedicated to sustaining and strengthening public opinion as the war on terrorism moves forward."


    What a dickface. I couldn't even read the whole article. That shit really got me vexed. What pissed me off was not what he said but that he really believed that shit[/b] !

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    Even more maddening than what he said is the unbelievably lame response from his boss.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate[/b] ."


  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    damn, just when you think nothing can be shocking when it comes to this kinda stuff...

    What a fucker.

  • If we could abort one former Education Secretary and one fat pill popping idiot the amount of bullshit on the radio would decrease drastically.

  • Even more maddening than what he said is the unbelievably lame response from his boss.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate[/b] ."

    Yeah, but what would you expect from him?

  • oh

    and I stand by my statement

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts

    What a dickface. I couldn't even read the whole article. That shit really got me vexed. What pissed me off was not what he said but that he really believed that shit[/b] !


    Oh no he doesn't really believe it.....it was just a "hypothisis" as part of a rational discussion.



    Dude is supose to be educating and he's continuing the "hypothisis" that 14% of the population does 90% of the crime. This guy is just wrong on so many levels. Maybe if he's spent more time in the library and less time at the slot machines.


    Did I mention that we have a racist gambling addict as the head of education in America?????

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    Even more maddening than what he said is the unbelievably lame response from his boss.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate[/b] ."



    Funny enough at first I thought "well at least he said something", but your right the statement should have been much stronger. Like......... President Bush "believes the comments were completly unacceptable ramblings of a mad racist gambling addict who he just fired!"

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    I wonder how much uproar there would be had he said replaced Black babies with Jewish babies.

    The EMPIRICAL statement is true, that's his ONLY defense. Eliminating ANY group or class of people entirely (genocide anyone) would lower their contribution to crime overall. BUT he could just have easily had said White, Turkish, club-footed or any other qualifier of a group of people. Why he choose Blacks? Strictly racist caca. Mathematics weren't the subject of his statements, genocide was.


  • Even more maddening than what he said is the unbelievably lame response from his boss.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate[/b] ."



    Funny enough at first I thought "well at least he said something", but your right the statement should have been much stronger. Like......... President Bush "believes the comments were completly unacceptable ramblings of a mad racist gambling addict who he just fired!"
    You know what I just thought of also, Bush does not have the mental capacity to make a stronger statement than "that was inappropriate"[/b] .

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    Even more maddening than what he said is the unbelievably lame response from his boss.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate[/b] ."



    Funny enough at first I thought "well at least he said something", but your right the statement should have been much stronger. Like......... President Bush "believes the comments were completly unacceptable ramblings of a mad racist gambling addict who he just fired!"
    You know what I just thought of also,
    Bush does not have the mental capacity to make a stronger statement than "that was inappropriate"[/b] .


    Yea, you always get the impression the the rest of the sentence is "not appropiate..........to say that stuff with tape rolling, save it for the giant owl in the woods at our next secret meeting."

  • Even more maddening than what he said is the unbelievably lame response from his boss.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate[/b] ."



    Funny enough at first I thought "well at least he said something", but your right the statement should have been much stronger. Like......... President Bush "believes the comments were completly unacceptable ramblings of a mad racist gambling addict who he just fired!"
    You know what I just thought of also,
    Bush does not have the mental capacity to make a stronger statement than "that was inappropriate"[/b] .


    Yea, you always get the impression the the rest of the sentence is "not appropiate..........to say that stuff with tape rolling, save it for the giant owl in the woods at our next secret meeting."
    DAMN! Who started that thread last time?

  • wow....Just when you think they can't get any worse....they get worse...

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    Even more maddening than what he said is the unbelievably lame response from his boss.

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters on Friday that President Bush "believes the comments were not appropriate[/b] ."

    Yeah, but what would you expect from him?

    for his head to do a 360 turn, for him to start speaking in tongues, turn green and suddenly disappear in a puff of smoke that would somehow turn back time and undo all the fuckery of his administration.


    hahahahahahahha



    ha






    ha



    sigh

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    for his head to do a 360 turn, for him to start speaking in tongues, turn green and suddenly disappear in a puff of smoke that would somehow turn back time and undo all the fuckery of his administration.


    hahahahahahahha



    ha






    ha



    sigh




  • He is a Fox News contributor

    shocking.

    this shit is just tiring. there is probably worse shit said on any given day in private but to do it in public when you are a politician or public figure is just irresponsible. at least we know where they stand.


  • Bennet worked for the Bush that didn't like broccoli and puked in Japan. Remember the thousand points of light?, that President Bush, not Shrub. The current Education Secretary is Margaret Spellings. Carry on.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts
    BUT he could just have easily had said White, Turkish, club-footed or any other qualifier of a group of people. Why he choose Blacks? Strictly racist caca. Mathematics weren't the subject of his statements, genocide was.


    Seriously. He should've just said "Republican" instead of "Black." Imagine how much better the world would be if Mamas Bush, Reagan, Bennett, Rove, Cheney, Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. had just aborted.

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    Bennet worked for the Bush that didn't like broccoli and puked in Japan. Remember the thousand points of light?, that President Bush, not Shrub. The current Education Secretary is Margaret Spellings. Carry on.



    Doh!!!!

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    I had to read that sentence like 5 times just to make sure. He really said that? My god people, the fucking gloves are off these days.

    Shit is really like open warfare.


  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    I had to read that sentence like 5 times just to make sure. He really said that? My god people, the fucking gloves are off these days.

    Shit is really like open warfare.


    Yea, I feel a little dumb for not realizing he's the ex-sec but I feel like I go to Harvard when it comes to the stuff I would say alloud on the radio.

    The crazy thing is that he keeps trying to defend it like he was just throwing some random thing out that people took wrong. No matter how you slice it this is fucked up. He basically is tossing out some Nazi ideas (kill all one type of people and your problems will decrease) then saying it's wrong....but it's true. That's his defense "I didn't say it was right I just said it was true".I can barely get my head around this kind of fuckery.

  • twoplytwoply Only Built 4 Manzanita Links 2,914 Posts
    Bennet worked for the Bush that... puked in Japan.

    Oh my god, I'd forgotten about how funny that was.

  • Options
    He lifted that entire theory from this book:





    One of the ideas set forth in Freakonomics is that the massive drop in the crime rate beginning in (I think the book gives the date as) the early '90s is the fact that it correlated with the years that all the babies who were aborted the first year after Roe vs Wade would be turning their early to mid teens. If abortion were not legal there would be more lower income kids on the streets ostensibly commiting crimes of all sorts. Levitt tries to blast holes in the idea that brilliant policing and new police tactics droppped the crime rate, as the government and politicians would have you believe.

    Freakonomics was on the New York Times bestseller list for a large part of the past year, might still be. A lot of people have read it. My guess is whats-his-name took that idea from the book. Dude can't even construct an original racist thought on his own.

  • pasepase 89 Posts
    actually they were talking about that exact hypothesis and that led to this statement. They were discussing the book when he said what he said. I was trying to figure out how he got form that hypothesis to "If you aborted every black baby the crime rate would go down." I listened to the tape and it seemed like he just pulled it out of his ass....


  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    yeah, based on what ive heard about that book, this dude still just came out and said we should abort every black baby to reduce the crime rate.


    I dont think you can point to some economics book and therefore say that what he said wasnt fucking crazy.


  • Options
    actually they were talking about that exact hypothesis and that led to this statement. They were discussing the book when he said what he said. I was trying to figure out how he got form that hypothesis to "If you aborted every black baby the crime rate would go down." I listened to the tape and it seemed like he just pulled it out of his ass....


    Ohhh, I didn't realize they were talking about Freakonomics already. My bad, I thought he was trying to pass off someone else's theory and twist it with his own racist spin.

    yeah, based on what ive heard about that book, this dude still just came out and said we should abort every black baby to reduce the crime rate.


    I dont think you can point to some economics book and therefore say that what he said wasnt fucking crazy.

    ???? Where did I say what Bennett said wasn't crazy? I was simply pointing out where he bit his idea from, which turned out to be pointless since I didn't realize that he was in a discussion about the book when he made the statement to begin with.

  • yeah, based on what ive heard about that book, this dude still just came out and said we should abort every black baby to reduce the crime rate.



    jesus you guys are getting this really confused, bennett is not for aborting every black child, the book freakanomics tries make an argument that because of the legalization of abortion the crime rate has gone down, what bennett was saying that if we aborted every black child the crime rate would go down even more, but does the fact that the crime rate went down justify the killing of black babies? the answer of course is no, he took the argument that the books made and took it to absurd level to prove his point that the argument the book makes it illogical and down right dumb.



    there are many reasons to think bennett is an idiot (prayer in school is one) but this one is a quote taken out of context

  • asprinasprin 1,765 Posts
    Ummm...WRONG. The only way anyone can try and "explain" this idiots speech as 'speculation' is if you start off with the assumption that blacks are inherently predisposed to be criminals ... more so than whites. And no matter how you cut it, that's just a load of bull shit so try again 3rdstream.
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