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  • The Sunshine Makers

    ppadilha said:
    I watched it late one night and had the volume down low so as not to wake up the baby, but I do remember the story being crazy. Isn't there a part where they stay in some huge mansion making acid or something?
    Yeah.. I mean this story is the shit. I heard a rumor that Vince Gilligan (creator of Breaking Bad) was interested in creating a series based on the life of  "SashaShulgin. I've been patiently excited about that ever since. He could easily do a series about The Sunshine Makers, and I think it would be incredible. If what he did with Breaking Bad is a clue to the quality behind a story like this. We're all in for a treat IMO. 

    - Diego

    ppadilha
  • The psychological struggle of the urge to grip vs. the need for a healthy space

    I sold half my records, because I was running out of space. I gave away many just as gifts to friends. I just decided I don't need to keep obsessing over buying records anymore. There's only really a handful of records that I will never sell, but I know that my family won't know what to do with them when I'm dead. I think about this more lately when I feel like buying records I can't afford. 

    - spidey
    The Bizarre
  • What even is Hip Hop?

    Junior said:
    Hi spidey,

    I'm guessing you're familiar with this old SFJ article...

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/10/22/a-paler-shade-of-white
    Thanks for posting it. This is the first time I've seen it, and I guess in the defense of The Arcade Fire, Pavement, The Shins, and Wilco. I don't think those bands ever claimed to be Rock & Roll. I think that the term "Rock" is just a misnomer given to the artists by labels, and whoever categorizes them in record stores, and long winded critics and reviewers. I feel that race might also have something to do with it. Is it fair to call Rock music "White music" or Hip Hop "Black music."

    It reminds me of a girl I used to work with who told me that she only listens to Rock music, and her favorite rock band was Mumford and Sons. Of course she likes the Beatles, Bon Iver, and Father John Misty. 



    You know, "Rock Music."

    - spidey
    Junior
  • What even is Hip Hop?

    Jimster said:
     There are still folk doing it this way.

    Edan


    J-Live 


    Off the top of my head..

    - D
    kicks79Jimster
  • What even is Hip Hop?

    I've been thinking about this one for a while now actually.. I thought some of you wouldn't just dismiss my naivety, and are mature enough to have a respectful discussion. I've been a hip hop fan for well over 27 years now, and now that all of the illusions in hip hop have been shattered for me. I come to this question:

    What even is Hip Hop?

    Kool Herc, Keith "Cowboy" Wiggins, and Afrika Bambataa all take claim for creating "Hip Hop."



    The earliest forms of Sampling goes well back to the 30's within the genre Musique concrète


    Even the term Hip Hop doesn't have a clear origin. 




    When the reality is that Kool Herc borrowed the technique from Dub music. 



    The technology necessary to make sample based hip hop wasn't even commercially available until the 80's, with the affordability of the Roland Tr-808 & E-mu SP-1200.

    Help me figure this out if it is not merely an art form, not a culture, not a movement, not a genre, not a fashion, nor a lifestyle.. 

    There's so many sub-genres that have spawned off from Hip Hop now, and are unfairly lumped underneath it, and it encompasses every other genre through sampling. 

    Wikipedia says: 
    Hip hop music, also called hip-hop[3][4] or rap music,[4][5][6] is a music genre developed in the United States by inner-city African Americans in the 1970s which consists of a stylized rhythmic music that commonly accompanies rapping

    Okay so basically "stylized rhythmic music." Every genre of music falls under this category. 

    Encyclopedia Brittianica says: 

    Hip-hop, cultural movement that attained widespread popularity in the 1980s and ’90s; also, the backing music for rap, the musical style incorporating rhythmic and/or rhyming speech that became the movement’s most lasting and influential art form.

    So what is a Cultural movement? 

    a group of people working together to advance certain cultural goals

    So then, what are the cultural goals of Hip Hop?

    Artists of NYC working together to become rich? DJ's and Rappers working together to make slamming parties? Black artists joining forces to rise up from poverty? It doesn't make sense. 



    I'm going to argue with this song that the genre of "hip hop" is actually just another sub-genre of funk and disco music that sometimes uses sampling with poetic speaking as opposed to singing.  So the reality is rapping would have been the most innovative aspect of "Hip Hop" even though we all agree that rapping was not a new idea even in 1970. Right?




    So, my best guess is that it ultimately comes down to Hip Hop is a STYLE OF PARTYING that evolved from Disco, and borrowed from Jamaica's music culture except the American DJ's incorporated many different genres of music.

    It originated with parties thrown in New York around the 1970's where the DJ's combines the two techniques of sampling records and combining them with announcers speaking rhythmically with slang to excite the dancers. Which was fully embraced, and adopted as an important extension of black american culture . 



    All credit due to the many originators or innovators of these Parties. This brings to me to my last question: Why is the MUSIC GENRE not just referred to as Remix music, or the Sampling genre. 

    bonus question - Shouldn't these songs be more important?




    </rant>

    - damo
    Jimster