45s that are missing the break/intro/sample compared to the 12" or album versions.

deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
edited October 2013 in Strut Central
Errrry,

You know how sometimes the 45 is missing the break/intro/sample compared to the 12" or album versions?

For example:
"I'm gonna do something freaky to you" - The album version has the long intro/break/sample, the 45 doesn't.
"rise" (Herb Albert) - The 12" has two long breaks (Biggie Hypnotize), the 45 has one short one.

Well I'm wondering about:
The RAH Band "Messages from the stars"
Thinking about buying the 45 but I want to make sure I'm not gonna miss anything by passing on the 12".
Any advice about that one?

You ever get a 45 and realize that it is lacking the break/intro/sample?

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  • Not sure about the rah band but a obvious one that comes to mind is the Detroit Emeralds - Youre getting a little too smart 45.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    Ha, I've got that 45.
    Didn't realize that I was missing anything.
    I guess I shoulda figured that there was a version with grabbable drums, since they've been used so much.

  • bennyboybennyboy 537 PostsAlumni
    I do believe Ballin' Jack falls into this category - no break on the 45?

  • DJBombjackDJBombjack Miami 1,665 PostsSuper OG
    KidProcrass said:
    Not sure about the rah band but a obvious one that comes to mind is the Detroit Emeralds - Youre getting a little too smart 45.

    Not on the US pressing, but the UK pressing does.

  • strataspherestratasphere Blastin' the Nasty 1,031 PostsAlumni
    No break at the beginning, but Aesop's Fables' And When It's Over is missing the break in the middle and at the end.

  • DJBombjack said:
    KidProcrass said:
    Not sure about the rah band but a obvious one that comes to mind is the Detroit Emeralds - Youre getting a little too smart 45.

    Not on the US pressing, but the UK pressing does.

    Well thats good to know. Thanks for the info.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    bennyboy said:
    I do believe Ballin' Jack falls into this category - no break on the 45?

    You mean "found a child"? Is it missing the "bust a move" break or just the intro drums?

    ... and those Aasop's Fables drums are grimey as hell. Dope.

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,678 PostsSuper OG
    Juice-catch a groove

  • JusMeJusMe 68 Posts
    Gap Band - Outstanding
    Johnny Guitar Watson - Superman Lover
    Ballin Jack has the Bust a Move break in the middle, No intro drums..

  • bennyboybennyboy 537 PostsAlumni
    deezlee said:
    bennyboy said:
    I do believe Ballin' Jack falls into this category - no break on the 45?

    You mean "found a child"? Is it missing the "bust a move" break or just the intro drums?

    ... and those Aasop's Fables drums are grimey as hell. Dope.

    Intro drums - bust a move still busts a move.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    bennyboy said:
    Intro drums - bust a move still busts a move.
    Thanks, I gotta get that record!

    JusMe said:

    Johnny Guitar Watson - Superman Lover
    Foreal, I play that 45 all of the time and had no idea.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    The_Non said:
    Juice-catch a groove
    The 12" version's only 3:30 anyway, wtf not like they had to shorten it.

  • ElectrodeElectrode Los Angeles 2,584 PostsSuper OG
    deezlee said:
    The_Non said:
    Juice-catch a groove
    The 12" version's only 3:30 anyway, wtf not like they had to shorten it.

    I wonder what the rationale was behind that. Same thing with Jesse Green's "Flip", which is only three and a half minutes without the instrumental part in the middle

  • PrimeCutsLtdPrimeCutsLtd jersey fresh 2,635 PostsSuper OG
    southside movement - I've been watching you

  • KineticKinetic 3,724 PostsSuper OG
    The 12" version of Parliament's 'Do That Stuff' - or rather, some pressings of it - have an intro break, and the 45 does not. I forget if the album version has the intro break or not.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    PrimeCutsLtd said:
    southside movement - I've been watching you
    Looks like two (dope!) versions from different years (73 & 75) (?)

  • strataspherestratasphere Blastin' the Nasty 1,031 PostsAlumni
    Kinetic said:
    The 12" version of Parliament's 'Do That Stuff' - or rather, some pressings of it - have an intro break, and the 45 does not. I forget if the album version has the intro break or not.



    The version on The Clones Of Dr. Funkenstein album has the break as well.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    Dang that "Messages from the stars" 7" was on Discogs forever then I made this thread and now it's gone.
    There are more but they are hella $$$.

  • cadeauxcadeaux 208 Posts
    Long Red 45 no break Intro, but a little Break in the middle.
    Got two copies of Southside Movements with a shorter Break.

  • DeeRockDeeRock 1,836 Posts
    All my 7" copies of the following have the full break

    Jesse Green "Flip"

    Johnny Guitar Watson "Superman Lover"

    Juice "Catch a Groove"

    Ballin' Jack "Found a Child"

  • JusMeJusMe 68 Posts
    Double checked my Superman Lover 45.. guess the break is there but its only 2 bars long compared to the 8 on the lp. Also missing the 4 bars of groove before the verse comes in. Verse comes in straight after the horn stabs. Other little edits within the track too.. shorter guitar solo and stuff like that.
    Looks like the other copies Ive seen, US pressing black label. Styrine. Would love a vinyl copy with the full break!

  • JATXJATX 258 PostsAlumni
    My Tyrone Davis "In the Mood" 45 is missing the intro as well.

  • JusMeJusMe 68 Posts
    My Tryrone Davis isnt missing anything far as I can tell. Dont have the LP so cant compare but the part at the start that the Beatnuts looped is there.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    This thread = :feelin_it: :next_level:
    Thanks strutters.
    P.S. I didn't know that Ballin' Jack song and now I do! Man that's dope.

  • Mek_JaggerMek_Jagger 317 PostsAlumni
    i dont have it and i never saw it but aint we funkin now cant have the break on 7. don t think its on the lp either

  • LokoOneLokoOne 1,818 Posts
    There's a 45 version of Bob James - Take me to the Mardi Gras.... ah forget it too obvious ;)

  • Edwin Starr ?????? I Just Wanna Do My Thing - Intro break only.

    ZZ Top - It's only love - Shortened break.

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    Sobriety Won said:
    Edwin Starr ?????? I Just Wanna Do My Thing - Intro break only.
    That's good to know, though it looks like the Deathbreaks re-issue 45 has the long version w the break.

  • But that does not count.

    :real_headz:

  • deezleedeezlee 282 PostsReal Head
    Sobriety Won said:
    But that does not count.

    :real_headz:
    I can't argue that but I'd like a couple copies regardless.
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